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We have been seriously looking at the UEV 490 since they bought them in from South Africa. Now we notice they have the Commander S, which we gather has a shorter drawbar and smaller channel on the frame,  making it less robust. Intend to do Gibb River Road, the Bungle Bungles and Canning Stock Route in July and now confused what we should buy. We are in WA and if anyone this way has one for sale we would be very interested. Would welcome all comments from owners. Thanks
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Hi cruiser the conqueror uev490 are available in two models for 2016
I can explain the differences also happy to talk you about it
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Hello Cruiser,
Later this year we'll be going to the Birdsville Races. So we will have experienced some 1200ks of dirt roads by the time we get home. Hence, I'll be able to give a far more detailed appraisal of our UEV-490's experience. To date, we have only travelled on the tarmac.

However, IMHO, I'd be selecting the UEV-490 over the Commander S model if you intend to travel the following:
*Gibb River Road - becomes very corrugated during the main season due to variety of vehicles (2 and 4 wheel drive), plus if they are towing caravans/campers/trailers), and wheelbase of vehicles). Roads that lead off the GRR can be in worse condition.
*Bungles - the road in is much worse than the GRR, but only 54ks one-way. Expect to take at least 2 &1/2 hrs to get to the Ranger Station from the highway. Plus additional ks to get to each attraction; and
*The Canning Stock Route - regarded as the worst road in Australia.

The UEV-490 is the more robust unit of the two, and better suited to these outback destinations. Once you have achieved the above roads, then you'll probably want to tackle additional dirt roads.

Happy hunting, and travels.

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Hi Cruiser

I agree with Filbee's comments above.

The Commander is well suited to the South African environment, but IMHO, it falls short of "extreme" use in Australia. If you are planing to spend most of the time on bitumen, with a fair bit of sand driving it will fit the bill for you.

If you plan to go to the places you have listed, I would definitely go the UEV ( extreme or evolution). The longer draw bar is an advantage when towing, allows better access to the tow vehicle and gives options on hitch type. The beefed up chasis and suspension give a fair bit more clearance when towing over tough terrain.

The main thing to remember when towing any trailer in extreme conditions is tyre pressure and speed, rest the vehicle to allow it to cool down and watch your weight.

People let their vehicle pressures down and often forget to lower the trailer pressures. Lower speed equals less heat in the tyres and less risk of a blowout. Resting the vehicle (both tow and trailer) allow the shocks to cool down. Hot shocks simply don't last. The trailers have a maximum weight. My UEV can only have 350kg of extra weight before it is overweight. Overweight means poor handling, poor handling means lack of control, lack of control results in the photos that come up if you google UEV 490. Many people would be suprised if they weighed what they put on their trailers.

I know they are more expensive, but the benefits are worth it.

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Anthony

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Thank you for your comments, much appreciated.
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Hint: most council waste deposits (in QLD at least) have a public weighing bridge. If you don't want a certificate it's for free and they are pretty accurate.
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Hi Cruiser
I have a commander S. I have taken it through on some pretty harsh places and the chassis hasnt broken yet. My recommendation is fit whatever model you buy with Rancho 9000 or equivalent adjustable shocks, forget foam cell, they just dont rebound as well as gas on rough corrogations. The other consideration is electric over hydraulic disc brakes. Electric brakes are great until they get wet and rust.


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Hi Cruiser.

I have a Companion that is the S.A version of the UEV440 , I would also agree with Filbee and Anthony .Believe me I have done it the hard way , my S.A companion has been towed over some of the roughest roads in Australia GRR , Mitchell falls  , Kalumberoo , Cape Laveque , and the Canning   and more and  no the chassis hasn't cracked yet however I have replaced nearly every moving part welded cracks in the main body , put braces in , replaced many pop rivets and more .If you like working and fixing things on your holiday go the Commander . if not spend the money to start with and have a good trip .
 
Good luck with your decision Cruiser

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Hello.

We have just bought a 2016 UEV490 and wonder if anyone has modified the steps so you can close the door and leave the steps out.

We've just come back from a trip where the night temperatures were pretty cold. As there was just the 2 of us and we could have a campfire every night we set up our bed in the dinette section.

When retiring to bed we found that the steps had to be pulled up otherwise the door won't close and appreciate this has to do with keeping the dust out.

The steps are so sturdy and stable, but they do take up a lot of very valuable room.

We would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has made successful modifications to the steps.

Also on the trip we found the inside metal walls were very cold and wonder if anyone has insulated these and what they used.

Looking forward to hearing from other owners their modifications.

Many thanks Bill
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Geez Cruiser,

They just modified the door on your model to a one piece. No pleasing some people (LOL). Even on the two piece doors the steps take up a fair amount of real estate. The good thing with your model is you can remove one set of the steps (drivers side by law - entry to van has to be on the near side) and use the space for storage.

I have completly insulated the inside if my trailer. All single skin surfaces (doors) I made insulation using a foil backed foam with upholstery carpet contact adhesives on (both from Clarke Rubber). This was Sikaflexed in place. On the double insulated walls, I used the same upholstery carpet and contact adhesives it on. Makes a huge difference to heating and cooling the trailer. It does add weight to the trailer though (10 - 15 kg).

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