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comjero

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Hi Copytec,

We have a 2014 Commander S June delivery that I think we are up to trip 12 as of next week since taking delivery. We also have joined the upgrade club to have it better suit our requirements. You ask which model should you get but first you should list out what you want from it? ,where to you want to go with it? what extras may make life easier , can you afford which ever model you want. As the gap between them is narrowing with the new Commander getting an upgrade suspension set up for example  and you can always upgrade other things later if you so wish.
The `shower` side we find more than adequate but its not as good as the shower at home and it is a shower in a tent and  if your wife is a 5 star hotel type girl she may not find it up to her liking. I would go the diesel hot water over the gas more just for ease of use ,you don`t` have to get it out and plug it into the system (it only take 3-5 min).
Our normal set up would have both awnings out which helps with cooling and maybe the wall over the kitchen if it looks like rain and I`d say it would be an easy 20min . We did a week at the snow and we put up every bit of canvas and it did rain so it was damp when I started packing it up so I was drying it in the sun as I went then refolding it plus all the other thing that needed to be packed up and it took about 2hrs and that was just me folding it so with two people and everything dry you could take 1/2 hr off that at least. If you google Conqueror SA they have instructional videos on set up and pack up that might give you a better idea. Storage is more than adequate for our family of four and I think we end up taking more than is needed for most trips there is no hanging space not a problem for us but some may want that??
You can hire them, I think there is a company up the Gold Coast way  this would give you a better idea of how they tow and would they fit your requirements and lifestyle.
good luck with your decision . 
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copytec

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Thanks for the reply, we currently shower using the Coleman hws with a pop up shower so all that side of things are fine for the wife but she does like hanging clothes for some reason but I will be able to get around that one. I have spoken to someone at conquer and I know about the commander chassis brakes and suspension upgrade and for me that would be a must have. Same goes for the diesel hws. Also the entertainment package and fridge.
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Bruce

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Gday copytech,

I have a 490 and I'm in Geelong, if you want to come down this way you are more than welcome to have a look at ours!

PM for contact details if interested.....
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150cruiser

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Hi copy tech,

We have the 490 evolution and travel with 3 young kids and find that we have enough room for all there stuff including nappies, idea high chair, bikes etc. if you have young kids you will understand how much this can add up to. We basically use the back wall compartments for clothes, drivers side for pots, additional dry stores, first aid and the like. Space above the pantry is towels, nappies and odds and sods.

I actually removed the shower side awning and ensuite and just use a pop up tent. The ensuite space is now storage for a porta potti, tent pegs, lilos etc. we have also never used the annexe walls or the BBQ grill. I carry an oz tent fly and spare hootchies if we want additional shade as they take up less room. I also haven't used the stero or internal speakers and given the option would probably not have got them. The 12v fans however are great

I have also separated the shower from the water tanks and installed a new pump to allow us to have the shower water come ffrom jerries as you will go through water too quick otherwise. The additional pump also meant I could use river water and limit the cross contamination to my cold water drinking line.

We did 10weeks on the road through central Australia with 2 kids and didn't have any issues. Setup depended on whether we were overnighting (I.e. Setting up the front bed and a fly only) or longer stays but would probably take no more than 20min. Fuel economy in a TD prado sitting probably on about 100km/hr would have been in the low 14l/100km for that trip.

There are a couple of mods (as usual) which we have done and I want to do, but the 490 suits our needs and is big enough for us and 3 kids. i would recommend them.

We did/do keep a blog (touringcaboose.com) of our trips which shows some of the things we have done to it and where we take it.

Cheers
Craig
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Sharky

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Hi Copytec,

My decision is based on the following:

1. The need for space to settle in during stopover or bad weather, obviously commander/490 offers the dining option
2. To travel light and managing fuel usage i.e reduce weight as much as possible even when towing the van. Obviously 440 has an edge over commander but clause 1 above tops it all
3. Family needs is to go back to basis. So, no stereo or TV in the van
4. Cost factor. My budget does not stretch far beyond commander. I missed out on diesel HWS and heater
5. Go remote places

I have just completed modifications with add on Redarc BCDC1240, 12V sockets wiring including rewiring with proper size cables on tow bar, between batteries, fridge and solar via BCDC this week. Solar panel (will be done in 2 weeks) Once these lots are completed, the whole family is self sufficient.

Good luck in buying one of these van.

S
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copytec

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Thanks Craig, excellent information..
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Geoffd

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Hi everyone
We have a 2011 Uev 490, bought new and we are not selling it!
We opted to use our existing Coleman Hot Water On Demand unit which works a treat to provide shower water and we have a free standing shower pole and shower attachment.without the cost of the inbuilt unit.
We had the bathroom vanity removed and the Coleman sits in there, even whilst in use!
The water system is a bucket that is filled from the existing cold water outlet at the vanity point, using a snap on hose with a plastic tap. cold water on demand as well!
If you are doing long haul desert or outback trips, you will find that the water in your UEV490 will be warm enough to have a shower through the side mounted shower unit, at the end of the day!
This is a real winner.
We also use the Coleman for washing dishes, using the same system.
The other modification for us was that CA sent us an aluminium tray, purpose built that sits on top of the existing dish washing extension legs, we simply wash dishes on a separate table.
This gives us the room we need for additional bench space.
If you need further details, give us a hoi at this forum
Prue and Geoff Dobson
Victoria.
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