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Minx

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Hi there everyone, new to this forum. Living in Nevada, USA but I'm actually an Aussie, ex Adelaide boy.

Been looking at these units for a while now trying to determine which model would best suit my needs.

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Greg


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Welcome to the forum Greg. Be good to hear about some of the tracks you go to in the US. Good luck with the hunt for a van
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Hi Greg,

Don't mean to be the bringer of bad news, but if you do your research you will discover it is nigh on impossible to privately import a Conqueror to the USA (unless it is over 25 years old).  In terms of the USA DOT safety regulations a caravan or trailer is treated the same as a motorised vehicle and for you to import a unit you need to either (a) provide documentary proof from the manufacturer that the unit fully complies with USA DOT safety standards, (b) submit the unit to destructive testing in the USA to prove that it complies with DOT safety standards, or (c) if you can qualify (few can) pay a very large bond and import the unit and then re-export the unit within 12 months (if you do not, then you lose the bond, the unit is seized or destroyed, and you face a fine and/or imprisonment.  It is also an offence to sell the unit within the 12 months.

This has nothing to do with emissions (no engine involved), registration, duties or taxes.  The import idea falls at the first hurdle.

So unless you are a foreign diplomat, are in the services, are travelling through the USA (less than one year), or the van is really old, or imported solely for show or display then there are no options.

"But what about the handful of Conquerors in the USA, how did they get there?" .... I hear you ask.  Imported by diplomats, imported by returning servicemen, imported by tourists transiting through the USA who then sold them contrary to the law, or imported by persons who failed to accurately declare them.

Until such time as Conqueror South Africa decides it wants to market Conqueror's in the USA it won't happen.  In the eyes of the USA DOT & CBP Conqueror South Africa is the manufacturing entity, not the entity in Brisbane.  The "customisation" activities performed in Brisbane do not qualify it as a/the manufacturer.

I suggest you do some research if you are still keen.  Here's a good place to start : http://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/importing-car and the following attachment.

Sorry to bring bad news - I wish you could get the van of your choosing.

 
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Minx

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Thank you for your info.

I have spoken with Pieter Kruger (Conqueror South Africa) and Dan (Conqueror Australia) who both confirmed their export models for the USA meets US DOT regulations and provide the stickers and documentations.

Furthermore, each state has different regulations and within a state the regulations can change. A small town that has one DMV office to service the entire town are not required to follow strict guidelines like the ones you find in a large city like LA or NY. I have two vacation homes in small towns and register my vehicles there. My vehicle is heavily modified and would never pass LA regulations, but it's registered in a small mountain community. I have full insurance and plates, fully legal to travel where ever I want, including LA & NY. After the modifications I took it to the DMV for registration. All they wanted to check was the VIN which was on the windshield. The DMV officer couldn't reach it without a small step ladder and told me, "oh never mind, lets go inside and get your plates." 

What it all comes down to is knowing the system and it's all about who you know, not what you know. I have been researching this subject and Conqueror for over a year and I've done my homework. Even if Conqueror didn't meet USA DOT regulations, I can still import it, get it registered and be a happy camper.


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I am not talking about registration - I fully expect that registration rules across different states (or towns) in the USA varies just as it does for different states of Australia.  The import approval process calls in the (national) DOT regulations.

And when it comes to importing - no its not who or what you know that matters - its about complying perfectly with very strict import regulations that matters.  It's a tough gauntlet to run and even if you emerge at the other end things can come unstuck rather spectacularly.  Think about it - which box can you tick on the HS-7 form?

A document and/or sticker provided by Australia in support of a USA import is of no value - the van is not manufactured in Australia.  The Australian entity is not the manufacturer.   But don't take my word for it - just read up on CBP's definition of "manufacturer".  It's this fine print that can get you unstuck.

If SA is offering a document and/or sticker then this is better - but for me seeing is believing.   I'm one of those people who take everything a salesman says with a grain of salt.  If your Conqueror is seized at the border because the sticker and/or document are not up to scratch where will you stand 2 months after your purchased it and half a world away.

If you think you have covered all the bases then go for it.  Good luck - you may need it.
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Minx

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Thanks for the advise, one year of research got me my answers.

Conqueror South Africa offers 2 of their models, the Commander and the Companion for export in full USA DOT compliance and I have verified it through both customs and my import agent.

Further more I have associates who are neither diplomats, military, or anything else other than your regular Mom & Dad who have been through this process with Conqueror and have imported their camper.


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Hi Minx nice truck mate I'm sure it would tow your Conqueror anywhere....and some.....can wait to see that photo.......but is a 490 bear proof??.......lol.....
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Hi Minx,
Welcome to the forum.
I'm sure you'll enjoy your new Conqueror when you get it. We are having great times in ours.
Don't be too concerned about the 490 being bear proof. The roar from the Hemi will probably scare the bears away!
Awesome looking jeep.
You may need to repaint the Conqueror to match.

I'm sure you will say no.
But now you're thinking about a bright red conqueror with black bar work.
Right?
Right?

All the best mate.
Enjoy your toys!
Adam
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Just showed my wife the photos of your Jeep.
She thinks you should repaint the Jeep to match the Conqueror.

My idea sounds pretty good now, huh?
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