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William the Conqueror

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Hi All

The solvent I use is a Parts Washer Solvent made by Septone - link below. I time the cleaning of the filter when I need to top up the parts washer so I dont waste the solvent. I pour it through a stocking to remove the solids and then add to the parts washer.

Stretto is on to the right oil - the secret is to squeeze out the excess oil so it doesnt run.

After I oil the filter, I just cut the corner of the zip lock bag and pour the excess oil back into the bottle for reuse later. 

I even serviced the filters on our trip around Oz - I just kept the solvent in a plastic litre bottle and then used it to make fire lighters after we serviced the filters.


 (http://www.gotstock.com.au/industrial-cleaner-solvent-based-parts-wash-20-litre-septone.html?gclid=COOz-faRjcsCFQyZvAodRtsGqQ)

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I've been thinking a bit about this thread, and to be honest I believe it is ridiculous that I need a low pressure air compressor (that's what the fan is in fact) to build up an overpressure in the UEV because otherwise dust will enter. That may work with dust, but it certainly won't stop water from entering the UEV when we do a water crossing.

The only good thing about that airflow is that I may get some relatively cooler air across the fridge, which may make it work a bit more efficient when traveling. But I don't think that was the purpose of the fan. It's airflow certainly isn't directed in the direction of the fridge, so that's a missed opportunity in my books.

To be honest I had never opened the filter access until I started working on the door locks, and I found a filter that was completely clogged with a thick mucky red ring. I'm surprised the fan was still able to suck in any air at all. Good news is that the fan itself was 100% clean. So the oiled filters most certainly do work. In my work on the locks I also needed to take off the inside bit of metal artwork that covers the fan. To do that you need to loosen eight nuts on the outside AS WELL AS drill out about eight or so blind rivets. So unless you have a drill and new rivets with you on a trip: forget about being able to clean the fan itself when needed. 

So, unless the paper filters are guaranteed to work just as well as the oil filter, and unless they are guaranteed to NOT let through any muck that could potentially destroy the bulky fan I'd limit myself to the oil filters and take a spare one with me to replace it half way through the trip and do the cleaning when I'm back home again.

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Ed

I think you may be overthinking the purpose of the fan just a little bit. I am sure Conqueror don't intentionally expect our trailers to leak (dust or water).

Given the places your profile lists as you having travelled, it's no wonder you have a muddy, red ring around the filter.

I won't deny that there is an issue with water leaks, but dust getting into the trailers is a phenomenon that is not unique to Conqueror. Dust ingress is a topic that is hotly discussed on most caravan/camping type forums. Have a look at the 4WD's that we all drive - they all leak dust and we accept it - even if it annoys us.

I agree with your statements about access to the fan being difficult. But really, how many times would some clean their fan? I bet most people would think some one strange if they cleaned their 4WD air conditioners fan. I have never entertained the though until I just wrote about it.

With regard to paper filters, I run an oiled foam filter in my Landcruiser in place of a paper filter. Paper filters will still allow dust particles to enter the combustion side of an engine. Just stick your fingers down the air flow path in your vehicle - that stuff on the ends of your fingers is fine dust that gets through the filter. OF filters will still allow some rough, but a hell of a lot less.

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Hi Anthony, yes you may be right. Reading about all the bad experiences that people are having with their UEV's makes me angry. Maybe we should also and very deliberately start mentioning the good stuff.

For example I was blown away by Thomo mentioning that he had driven around Australia for a total of 75000 Km in 18 months with only a few hickups. Seventy Five Thousand! I though he'd done a typo so I pinged him in a PM, but yes it's true. Now that puts things into a different perspective doesn't it. 

I agree that the filter works, and yes that big blob of red dirt on my filter is proof of that. I don't have a problem with that, on the contrary. What I was trying to say was that I would trust the oil filter more than a paper filter. But I am still ambiguous whether that fan is a good idea or a compromise for something else. But ... having said that, I do acknowledge that it works. My interior has been dust proof for the whole 8000Km outback trip.

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I have to say I have never turned my fan on , not intentionally I just forgot about it and did 400kms in the dust and to my supprise no dust inside , our trailer has done 40,000 kms now including quite a few thousand in the dirt and still no fan and no dust , thinking of turning it into a cupboard . However ithe roof does leak a small amount of water .
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Ed

I apologise if it appears I was having a crack at you - most definitely not my intention. Just trying to keep it all in perspective.

I truly feel your pain, probably more than anyone else or more than most people would know!..... But if you go back and reread all of my previous posts, you will not find any where I bag my trailer or my Conqueror journey. I have always tried to be positive about the product and respond positively to people's posts.

I have said it before and I will say it again - I truly believe in the concept of the product. There have been issues with quality control of the product in the past and also with previous management issues. Hopefully the product, management and aftercare service has now evolved to a point where the company is merely catching up on previous quality/warranty issues.

I too have been extremely angered when I have heard of the response one person recieved to an issue, while some one else recieved none... I have made the conscious decision to remain positive...

Like the motto in my signature says Vive Les Peuerels. It literally translates from the Old French for - Long live the Pleverals - which was theFamily name of William the Conqueror. It was shouted by his subjects to mean "Long Live the Conqueror!"

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Anthony, no need to apologize. In fact I appreciate it very much that you've introduced a reality check for me. I had come to the same conclusion that - no matter how much this is a love/hate relationship - if I keep bagging a company I'm only creating a negative trend and that's not doing anyone favours.

So I will continue to write (long) stories about my modifications, but I'll try to present them as 'Improvement Suggestions'. There are three in the pipeline: one about my side bed, one about the water tanks and I'm researching quite a bit about weight distribution on the UEV. Stay tuned.

I also suggest everyone to start contributing to this website, specifically about your positive experiences, tooling suggestions, or technical articles if you have it in you. For example, the recent post about the pop rivet manual was kick-ass. I'd love more articles like that because it really helps. The posting about how to clean the oil filter was great too. 

It sucks to hear when someone has a bad experience with a delivery, but how many deliveries are going well, and how many people have made holidays without any drama's? All my holidays have been great with little or no technical issues, no leaks, no dust, nothing. So from that perspective I can't complain (and won't).

Have fun,

Ed.

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I have a K&R long life air filter on the car. I use the K&R products for that (cleaner and oil) on the UEV's pressurising fan's air filter.

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Yep! They are great products and well suited to this application

Have previously used them on an old "V" Charger

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Hi All

About to head over to QLD next week for 6 weeks via the Plenty H-Way weather permitting.
Decided to have a quick look at the pressure fan filter the inner one seems fine but the outer needs a clean.
probably a silly question but do need to clean both.

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I would - just to be sure.

Do you have the outer oil type or paper filter?

If its oil, when you clean it and reoil it, make sure you remove as much oil as possible - it only needs to be tacky. Also use filter oil not engine oil.

You don't need to oil the inner filter.

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Hi Anthony

I have the Oil type, have cleaned both with mineral terps and double washed them with ct18 as the inner one had oil in it, but that could have come from the outer filter. I have a tin of penrite filter oil in the shed. 

We did a trip to Perth via the central Hway and up to the Pilbara earlier this year, plenty of dirt and bulldust but not a spot of dust in the 490. 

Many thanks for the info

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Our 1911 uEV490 did leak at one stage, however, regular maintenance is the clue.For a long time, I thought that the camper should look after itself, however, we have put our friend through a heap of outback experiences, including corrugations, dust and water and I now have a maintenance program both prior and after outback trips Can't see us parting company for a while yet!
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